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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on Aug 22, 2008 12:50:35 GMT -4
Michael's Question
Hey, Mike! Thanks for the congrats!
Be aware it's from my point of view, becuase I didn't talk with everyone, and I don't know what were some of the juror's strategies.
1. Nick ~ A person, who knows who to ally with! He was great, he was looking for options, who would help him get farther. He never betrayed his real alliances, was great to strategize with, and won
one individual challenge! He was really close to winning more, although!
2. Rodger ~ He was kinda like Nick, but since he won more individual immunities, he gets higher. He was one of the main reasons, behind the alliances of four. He played great, was a graet strategizer, and was fun to talk with!
3. Jeff ~ He was really good player. He would have went, if it wasn't for Mike's immunity idol. That was his downfall this time around. He was good at challenges, won 2 individual immunities, and was looking ALWAYS for the best for him. Never gave up, if something didn't go the way he wanted. He also was very fun to talk with!
4. Elisabeth ~ She was good, but her downfall was she tried a little too much, too late. Her downfall were her mass PMs to the Kuchas, at merge. As much as I know, she didn't talk to many of us, and then her mass PMs weren't really liked. That's a raeson, why she was voted out. But she could have done great, if she was given the chance, I think.
5. Jerri ~ Well, I think you were quite carried to the Final 10. You helped us win one pre-merge challenge, for which I am thankful, but we secured your spot to Final 10. You deserve credit for being the last member of Ogakor, but Debb has a lot of part to this. You still are the last remaning person of your tribe, which is a great accomplishment.
6. Mike ~ You and Alicia are quite equall with me. You both never really talked with me about this game, so I don't know what you both really did. However, you changed the game by giving Jerri the idol, and setteling Jeff's fait.
7. Alicia ~ As I said about Mike, you never really talked with me. You may have had some strategy, but I have no idea what it was. We may say you were voted out, because you were seen quite as a "threat" by being an ally of Jeff's.
I think Keith & Maralyn would be a great F2, from the pre-jurors. I know how Keith plays, and he is a great player, ready to do EVERYTHING to succssed in this game. It seems like Maralyn was his #1 ally, and she survived all Ogakor Tribals, without immunity. She definitely deserves credit for this.
Thanks for the questions, Mike, and good luck to you too! |
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on Aug 22, 2008 13:33:06 GMT -4
Elisabeth's Question
Hello, Liz, thanks for the congratulations!
Now, that clear why you did some things. I am glad I am one of the people, who you wanted to talk with! 
No surprise here.
Thanks for your kind words, Liz! I was thinking people would not like my opening, beucase it's huge, but I am glad it helped to clear some things! And why I wasn't with you & Jeff, at all. I already had an alliance, and I didn't want to break it. Plus, I felt more comfortable with it. I didn't want to make an alliance, then break it, and dissapoint you, but if you remember, you sent me this PM:
After this I couldn't deny it, or you could get suspicous, so I am sorry you are feeling dissapointed about me.
You are welcome. I knew Katie was one of your favorites, but that's not the reason why I compared you to her. Actually, I told Debb in one conversation you are such a Katie.  I am glad you could talk with her!
It's okay. I couldn't answer them yesterday, but I did them today.
It's time for the so long waited answers, I guess.
Well, because I already had an alliance. I had made it on Day 1, and I wanted to stay loyal to them. It'd be too sneaky to make too many alliances, too early. Plus, you approached me about an alliance. 
Well, we have played before, and you are good. So, I can talk what you could have done better only in this game. I think if you had talked more with the original Kuchas, you would be in a very good position. You may have talked with them, but from what I heard, you didn't. People didn't like your mass PMs at merge, because you never talked to them, and then you were doing this. I am an excpentetion, because you talked with me, pre-merge.
That you are social, when you want to. If you feel you are doing something wrong, in your gameplay, you are going to change it. You tried to do this, becasue I think you felt quite Under the Radar, so you decided to not be UTR anymore, at merge.
Unfortunately, I didn't. I had a good one, for Episode 01, and I thought I would go like that, but I didn't.  I was explaining what was going on with my votes.
I have 36 PMs. I usually was planning with my allies through AIM.
Your charm, I think, and your talkative skills. I would have loved you, If I didn't know what to except. Jeff really liked you, and I am sure more people would, if you had contact with them.
Yes, I knew. It was quite obvious. How did I know? Pretty easy. By your personal text "Survivor's Sweetheart". I checked Season 1's board, and Colleen had the same thing, as her personal text.
It depends on what character you want to be. If you want to be a true bitch, be Kelly. If someone want to bitch at people, Kelly would be the best choice, because she was Africa's Drama Queen. If you want to be a nice character, be Kim P. She was Africa's Sweetheart.
I think you are usually a nice person. I understand if you get angry, when any of your allies lie you, becasue I know you have a very deep loyalties, to your allies. You would not vote them out, until only you & them are left, and you don't like if they vote you out, before you & your allies are still in. I know this from own experience.
I don't see where you were rude with me, actually. But, since I have to answer your quesiton, here is my answer. Well, one of people's best quality is to forgive the bad things. So, yes, I forgive you. It's just a game, not a real live, so it's all good!
I hope I answered your questions, Liz. If I missed anything, or you have any other questions, let me know. |
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 22, 2008 15:22:24 GMT -4
Hi there Liz. A few quick things before I get to your questions:
I’m sorry you disagree with my comparison of you to Rob C. My logic was this - before All Stars started I read an interview with him where he said that he knew he was going to really have to tone down his strategy coming into the game because everyone knew him as a schemer. That’s what I was referring to. And from your assessment of your own gameplay, that would hold true. Unfortunately, you were someone I didn’t get to know well enough to really choose on a personality basis, so that way why I chose Rob. For what it’s worth, he is one of my favorite players – or was until he became a big media whore.
As far as my ranking of jurors – again, I can only judge people on what I saw. You never came to me to talk game at all except for one time and that appeared to be a desperate attempt to get Michael out and I was so confused on why you were suddenly thinking we were allies, that I decided to turn it against you and you were voted out. Believe me, after this is over and I get to read confessionals, my ranking list will probably change drastically, not just of you, but of everyone.
And now, on to your questions:
Why wasn’t I someone you approached for an alliance?
When I came into this game I wanted to wait to be approached for an alliance. I sometimes feel that if people are running around asking for alliances too early in the game, they appear desperate and anxious and it can backfire on them. So I focused on just being an active member of the tribe and performing well in challenges and eventually I was approached with the alliance of Rodger/Kimmi/Nick that I stayed true to the entire time. Also, you didn’t give out your AIM to the tribe until way after I had already solidified my alliances with others.
- What do you think I can improve about my gameplay?
I think your being quiet towards the beginning of the game hurt you as far as making solid alliances. Also, I think you put too much on your performance in the Borneo season. I had no idea who you were in that game, and frankly, I didn’t care. If I were going to team up with someone based on that, it would be a strong player, so your reputation would have only helped you when it came to me.
- What is one strong asset of gameplay that I do have?
I think the strongest asset I noticed of you is that I had no idea how good of a game you were playing, and I definitely underestimated you as far as that goes. You were a schemer without me knowing you were a schemer, and that’s a very good skill to have.
- Did you write confessionals throughout the season, if so how many?
I tried to write in confessionals often, but this was my first ORG and I was kind of expecting there to be more questions to answer, especially from Gretchen who had signed up in that role, so my confessionals aren’t exactly a fair representation of my gameplay.
- How many messages (Pm’s) are in your inbox at this time?
Right now there are 89 messages in my inbox. Most of my communication in this game was done over AIM.
- What is one quality that I do posses like the actual Elisabeth?
I think Elisabeth had a secret devious side that she hid behind the fact that she was a cute little girl, and that sounds like something you did as well.
Did you know I was from season one? If so, how?
I found out because Kimmi was really set on figuring out who you were, so we had discussions about it. Like I said earlier, I didn’t care much. What I did care about what that you thought that I was from season one and were targeting me because of it. I’m not from season one, and your targeting me about that is a big reason why I targeted you, and why you left the game when you did.
- Who do you think I should play in Africa season and why?
Kelly Goldsmith. She’s got that sneaky, shrewd side to her that I think you have. And I think you should embrace the competitor in you rather than hide it. She’s also my second favorite player from that season, behind Teresa.
- Kiss my ass for a second and what do you really think of me?
Ok, I think you and I both know that if I were to kiss your ass here, it would be pretty fake of me and I’m not trying to be like that right now. The thing is, I didn’t get to know you as well as I would have liked, and I take responsibility for that, but the fact remains…I don’t know enough about you to kiss your ass. From what I do know, I admire that you were actually playing this game when at times I admit to thinking you were just kind of floating around. I think to be underestimated in this game is a good thing. The most kissing ass I can do in sincerity is to say that I wish I had gotten to know you better because you seem like a cool girl and a smart player.
- Do you forgive me, for being rude with my questioning (because I am sorry).
I do forgive you, even though I don’t think you have anything to apologize for. This game can be nasty, and I’m giving everyone who played it a little leeway in their actions and words because it can be stressful and isn’t always a true representation of our true selves.
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Post by Jeff Probst on Aug 22, 2008 16:12:32 GMT -4
I think everyone has had their questions answered (correct me if I'm wrong) so Debb and Kimmi can post closing statements now.
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 22, 2008 16:40:14 GMT -4
I believe Rodger wanted to share the answers to his question. I sent mine to his via pm, so I will wait and hear from him before I give my closing statements, if that's ok.
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Post by Jeff Probst on Aug 22, 2008 16:54:00 GMT -4
That's fine, Debb. I wasn't exactly sure what Rodger was doing with those.
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Post by Jeff Varner on Aug 22, 2008 16:56:32 GMT -4
Uhmm, are the questions all done?
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Post by Jeff Probst on Aug 22, 2008 19:01:11 GMT -4
You can still ask more questions if you want.
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Post by Jeff Varner on Aug 22, 2008 19:17:06 GMT -4
First of all, i wanna say I thought I was done, but I'm not. I loved the game and I have NOTHING against either of you, even though I will pick one rather than the other. I'm just doing this to remind Kimmi from another game so:
Debb, I think I might be the biggest idiot up here. I truly, to the bottom of my heart hurt, by what you did to me. It was a great move, it really was. But I never in a milion years thought that you could do that... to me. You put a price on our friendship, You threw US away. LIKE GARBAGE! You basically said, you know youre basically not quite worth this money. And this hurts ya know, it really does hurt. But I dont want words... I dont want words from you (you answered my questions). I DONT WANT TO TALK TO YOU! And honestly the hardest part for me... was the fact you took away 9 days i couldve spent with Kimmi.
Oh well. Good luck guys. I just had to do that lol.
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 22, 2008 19:32:44 GMT -4
Haha. At first I was like "Holy crap, Jeff hates me!!"
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Post by Rodger Bingham on Aug 22, 2008 19:39:22 GMT -4
Ok i'm done Jeff....  the purpose of the questions was just to know how much they got to know me... and debb yeah this will not reflect on the friendship that we formed. so Debb got most of the answers correct BUT i have yet to decide who to vote for coz i LOVE you both... great players, great people... |
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Post by Jeff Varner on Aug 22, 2008 19:42:39 GMT -4
Haha. At first I was like "Holy crap, Jeff hates me!!" LOL! No, I Kimmi was in F2 before and I gave that speech to the other person. |
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 22, 2008 19:43:01 GMT -4
Thanks Rodger. You're a class act to the end.
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Post by Jeff Varner on Aug 22, 2008 19:47:30 GMT -4
Can we hear there closing statements now?
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Post by Jeff Probst on Aug 22, 2008 19:49:12 GMT -4
Yes you can post closing statements now.
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I am glad you could talk with her!
I was explaining what was going on with my votes.
the purpose of the questions was just to know how much they got to know me...