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Post by Jeff Probst on Aug 21, 2008 13:34:20 GMT -4
FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL
Congratulations to Debb and Kimmi for making it to the final two! But only one of you can win the game.
Throughout this game fourteen other players have been voted out. Now, half of those people control your fate.
First, Debb and Kimmi will make opening statements to the Jury explaining why they should be the sole survivor. Then, the Jury members will ask questions to Debb and Kimmi. Once all questions are answered, Debb and Kimmi can make their closing statements.
Jurors can't vote until closing statements are over. Vote through PM. You can't change your vote so keep that in mind.
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 21, 2008 13:49:15 GMT -4
Hi there everyone. I came into this game not knowing a soul. It was my first ORG that I ever joined and I was so excited to play. From the very start I knew that I wanted Kucha to do well in challenges, and I think I was a key player in a lot of those tribal challenges. I was active and I tried to get to know everyone. I also wanted to form an alliance that I would stick with the entire game, and I did that in Rodger, Kimmi, and Nick. I brought Jerri along to help out, and all of you played a large part in me getting to this point, so to that I’m very grateful. I just wanted to let you all know that I’m going to be as honest as I can with my answers tonight. I’m not going to pretend like I didn’t tell a few lies on my way to the final 2, because I did. But I don’t believe tonight is the time for lies, so whatever questions you have for me, I’ll do my best to give you as honest an answer as possible. I hope that you’ll see that my overall game was a blend of social skills, strategic thinking, and challenge prowess. I played the best game I knew how to play, and I hope that you’ll decide in the end to give me your vote. Thank you.
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on Aug 21, 2008 14:24:18 GMT -4
Kimmi Kappenberg's Opening Statement Hello, jurors! Finally, the time, to show face to face with you again, has come! First of all, I am going to thank Rodger. If he didn't give me immunity, I don't think I would be here. Thank you, Rodger!
I don't know, if you guys like long opening's, but that's what I am going to do. Well, I would like to clear everything, before you ask your questions! I would like them to be based on my gamepley, so I think everything should be clear before then.
Once the game has begun, I didn't feel very secure with my tribe. You may wonder why, when we were winning a lot of challenge. Well, I never knew we would win all of them, so I had ot make alliances. Jeff came to me and asked me about an alliance. I agreed, because I didn't think it would be smart to dely it, so early. I wasn't really going to be honest with that, because I didn't feel save with Jeff.
Then, I went to Rodger, just becaue he was a person, who I knew before the game, and who bothered to talk with me. I asked him, If he would like to work with me, and he agreed. Actually, at he said me right after I asked him, he could bring Nick in it, too. That was a double side blade for me. You may wonder why? It was good, because there would be one more person in the alliance, and it was bad, because it meant Nick & Rodger are close, and I might be the 3rd wheel in that. So, I immediatly decided I would need at least one more person. The reason, I told to Nick & Rodger, was that we would need 4th person, in case we go to Tribal. I offered it to be Debb, because I liked her at that time, and she was active. I thought there would be no reason for them, to dely on accpeting her to our group. They wanted Jeff at one time, but I tried my best it to be Debb, and as you see, it worked. I didn't want Jeff, because I wouldn't feel safe with him, in that alliance. I wanted Debb, not only because she was active, but because she was a girl. I know, it's lame, but I knew I would feel more safe with a girl, than with a man. I didn't know what could happen, so I had to make myself feeling more safe, at least. I might have been wrong, it was risky, but that's what I thought at that time.
Then, we kept winning challenges. There was no reason to think about who to vote out. Actually, I was talking with possible opportunities who to vote out, with Debb. Not with Rodger & Nick, beucase we couldn't get on the same time, on AIM. AT that time, Elisabeth was talking to me, and approached me an alliance, between me, her and Jeff. Well, I didn't answer at first, but she PMed me again, and asked if she did something wrong. Well, I had to agree, to not make her suspicous or anything. I don't know, If she felt sure, but at least I tried to make her feel safe.
I was gunning for Liz, to be voted out, when I talked with Debb. The reasons were, because she was in Season 1, and didn't want to pos ther AIM. The other one was, because she always wanted to sit out/ was late for challenges. That's what I used, while I was trying to put a target on Liz's back. But, the real reason was, that I didn't trust her. I knew she could pull something very good, so I had to get her out.
My second target was Jeff, because he was close to Liz. I knew he would not be happy, If she get out, so they had to go back to back, in case we went to Tribal.
Things didn't change much, beucase we never lost a challenge. Debb got the password from Jerri, at that challenge, and it seems like that was when they made their alliance. Debb quite told it to me, when she told me Jerri asked if we would have the numbers, to make her the last Ogakor standing. I didn't put that into a big consideration, and I think it was a mistake. Well, what's done is done.
Once the merge came, the game get more intersting. I will not say it started from there, beucae I think Survivor starts from the moment, when the tribes are announced. If you survived the firt part, pre-jury stage, that means we played the game.
So, at merge, I wasn't the most active. I didn't do the F10 challenge, and I self-voted that round. Anyways, I would have voted for Maralyn, over all other suggestions. It's just because I wanted her out, and my alliance wanted to do that.
Then, the same story goes for Final 9. But, I self-voted, becuase I didn't want Elisabeth to hate me, haha. Well, I would still have voted for Liz, because I was gunning for her so far, and it would be stupid to vote for someone else. If I voted with Liz, then my alliance could get suspicous, so the best thing for me, I think, was to self-vote. It worked out, and Liz was mad to Rodger and Debb, but not me.
It was good that Jeff was on vacation, and had another person playing for himself. He wasn't mad at me, because i think he didn't know why exactly Liz left. If I am wrong, then sorry, Jeff. But, he didn't give up, and tried to pull out something. He offered me an alliance between me, him, Rodger and Alicia. I would never agree on that, because I already had a set up alliance, and I was feeling good with it, so I didn't want any other. I didn't answer with a straight yes or no, but I think I made it look like I didn't want it. I noticed Jeff tried to make an alliance between me, him, Alicia and Nick, because he might have thought I didn't want Rodger in the previous one. It just means Jeff treid to pull out something, after one of his allies was voted out.
That round, Jeff won immunity, so we couldn't take him out. The other option was to vote out Alicia. An easy reason would be "Because she didn't talk to me", but the real one was becasue Jeff had her in his plans. and my alliance couldn't let that happen.
Then nothing really happened, but Mke and Jeff left the game. I admit that I wasn't excepting either of this eliminations. Debb talked with Jerri, so we could split the votes between the people, who we wanted. But, however, it looks not every our plan worked on the time, when we wanted it to. One thing, like this, is when Jeff left, because Jerri had Mike's immunity.
Then, at final five, Jerri was voted out. I was quite surprised that it was 2-2-1, and from that moment I get suspicous. I asked Debb who she voted for, and I am thankfull she was honest with me. She told me she voted for Roder, because it wouldn't have mattered. That made me even more suspicous. I was sure Jerri would give immunity to her, but, as you can notice, I still voted for her, at Final 4.
You may ask why? Well, Nick told me Rodger and Debb were close, and that Rodger would give Immunity to Debb, if he gets out. Well, I told him that Debb voted for him at F5, and that she is planning to vote for him again, and the conversation started. He offered me to vote for Debb, because he wouldn't vote for himself, and not for me, beucase only I would vote with him, I think. In the end, it was a tie between Rodger and Debb, and Rodger left, because Debb had Jerri's Immunity. My plan was not to get out Debb, but to get Rodger's immunity.
As you can see, it worked out perfectly. Debb asked me who I voted for her, and I told I voted for her. I had to be honest, because she was honest with me. If I had won the last challenge, I would have voted out Debb. I wouldn't be trying to make Rodger not give immunity to Debb, if I was okay with her being safe. You probably don't know, but I got last place on the Final Challenge.
I did what I thought was good for me. Almost everythin worked out, and I am glad I am sitting here now! I was honest to me FIRST and TRUE alliance, and I am sorry If I lied to some of you.
One last thing. I did the three things what are important for me, in the game of Survivor: Be Social, Be Stratigical, and win critical challenges for me. I did all three of them. Well, I was social with the people, who bothered to talk with me. I won two challenges in a row, so I showed I did care about this game, after my self-votes, at early merge.
I am sorry if this is HUGE, but I wanted to say all of this, to you, guys .I am looking for your answers, guys!
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Post by Jeff Varner on Aug 21, 2008 15:07:44 GMT -4
Well, Congrats you two! You honestly deserve being here. I really wanted to take Kimmi to the Finals, cause we can be so much alike. And when we argue she has such strong opinions, I love it. Debb is very similar, towards the beginning, I saw us as the challenge power house.
These are the questions for both of you, I am going to be a picky juror, if you don’t mind.
1) Say 3 reasons why the opposite player deserves it more than you. 2) Compare the 7 jurors, to REAL Survivor players. 3) Tell me your BEST strategic move in the game. 4) Name, the biggest thing you are sorry for. 5) And lastly, tell me 3 things you like, about me!
Honestly, you guys played a great game. You 2, myself and Nick were the challenge Hogs. As much as I would like to be in that spot you to deserve it! Good luck to the both of you.
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 21, 2008 16:25:29 GMT -4
Hi there Jeff. I knew I could count on you for some colorful questions. Here goes -
1) Say 3 reasons why the opposite player deserves it more than you. I think Kimmi played a strategic game, and I admire that in a competitor. She also won 2 individual immunity challenges in a row, which no one else managed to do. The only other thing I can think of is that Kimmi was a major driving force behind forming the alliance of four that eventually went all the way to the end.
2) Compare the 7 jurors, to REAL Survivor players. Elisabeth - I would say Elisabeth reminds me of Rob Cesternino in All Stars, because from what I understand she is actually quite a fierce competitor, and was probably a little worried about that reputation coming into this game, so she tried to tone it down a bit. Unfortunately for her, it didn’t work out. Alicia - you reminded me a bit of Leann from Vanuatu because you appeared slightly under the radar, but you were aligned with a strong player and were taken out by another alliance because the leader of your group was immune that week. Michael – Maybe a little like Stacey from Fiji. Only because I think there may have been a few people in this game that you clashed with, and in the end your ouster was due to something unexpected. In Fiji, Stacey was taken out by YauMan’s hidden immunity idol. In this game, you were only voted out because Jerri self voted that week. Jeff – you were like Candice from Cook Islands. A well liked competitor, a good mix of strategic thinking and challenge skills, but you were taken out by an alliance of four because of your loyalty to another side. Jerri – you were like Guatemala’s Danni. Both sweet girls who managed to survive farther than anyone expected even though they were down in numbers at the merge. Rodger- I actually think Rodger was a lot like the character he played as. I genuinely think that Rodger is an incredibly nice person and he was loyal to his alliance, almost to a fault. Nick- I’d say Nick reminds me a bit of Natalie from Micronesia because I think at the beginning Nick played a great under the radar game, stayed true to his allies, and then towards the end of the game, Nick came out swinging and just barely missed making the finals.
3) Tell me your BEST strategic move in the game. I think the smartest thing I did in this game was form an alliance with Jerri. Having that ace in the hole was not only good for my alliance, because it allowed us to get farther together, but it was helpful to me personally because it was her immunity that helped me to survive into the final 3.
4) Name, the biggest thing you are sorry for. While I don’t have any regrets about the way that I played the game, I do feel sorry that I had to vote against Rodger when I did because he was one of the first people who came to me and tried to make me feel comfortable in the tribe and he was always very nice to me, so that was a very difficult vote.
5) And lastly, tell me 3 things you like, about me! Haha. Well, first of all I like that you asked this question because I think it shows a sense of humor. I like that you were a strategic thinker throughout this game. I like that you tried like the devil to stay in the game, when other people were happy to just roll over and be voted out. Lastly, I admire that even though you wanted to win so badly, that you can still put your feelings aside and give Kimmi & I your sincere congratulations for making it to the final 2.
I hope that answers your questions to your satisfaction.
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Post by Nick Brown on Aug 21, 2008 16:45:19 GMT -4
First off, congratulations to the both of you. Both of you are phenomenal players, great allies, and downright good people. I'm very happy for the both of you.
On to my questions
Debb, I hear Survivor Second Chances: Australian Outback was such a great season, a full length feature film will be made about it. You are in charge of casting the jurors, the two of you, and Probst himself. Go.
Kimmi, in the original Survivor Australian Outback season, Barramundi was originally 5 Kuchas and 5 Ogakors. How would this game be different if the split was 5-5 as opposed to 8-2 at the merge?
And finally, to the both of you. My vote is up for grabs. You both have had many conversations with me online. I want to know why I'm going to vote for you. Dazzle me.
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 21, 2008 17:33:57 GMT -4
Debb, I hear Survivor Second Chances: Australian Outback was such a great season, a full length feature film will be made about it. You are in charge of casting the jurors, the two of you, and Probst himself. Go.
Haha. This was a tough question, but I did the best I could:
Elisabeth would be played by Scarlett Johansen because I think she appears to be a charming sweet young lady, but there’s also a hint of something there that maybe you can’t quite put your finger on. Like maybe she’s hiding something.
Alicia would be played by Kathy Najimy because we need an actress who has experience in playing the role of supporting character/funny best friend type.
Michael would be played by Mel Gibson because of his strength in playing strong leading men types, but also because of that whole slip up where he said some things that get him in trouble.
Jerri would be Reese Witherspoon, because I don’t believe that either of them have a mean bone in their bodies.
Jeff would be played by Daniel Craig because he’s charming, debonair, cunning, and has a license to kill.
Nick would be played by Brad Pitt, the devilishly handsome and sly chap who can play tough, and who is just a big teddy bear when you get to know him.
Kimmi would be played by Angelina Jolie because I think she has some black widow like qualities about her, and she can be very dangerous.
I would be played by Hilary Clinton because I like to think I displayed many qualities of a strong woman throughout this game, and quite frankly now that she lost the election, she may have to turn to feature films.
And our host Jeff Probst would be played by Clint Eastwood because the game was well organized and I think Clint is an amazing actor who is also an extremely talented director as well.
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 21, 2008 19:07:18 GMT -4
And now for the second part of your question, Nick:
And finally, to the both of you. My vote is up for grabs. You both have had many conversations with me online. I want to know why I'm going to vote for you. Dazzle me.
Quite frankly, I believe I should get your vote because I honestly think that I played the best game this time around. I was constantly making sure our alliance of four was on the same page. I always knew what my next step in the game was going to be, and if something didn’t work out, I always had a backup plan. On more than one occasion I had to send Kimmi a pm telling her how the alliance was voting because she wasn’t around, and didn’t always know what was going on. I successfully got Jerri on our side, which was a driving force behind our alliance getting to the final 4. I was a major contributor in a tribe that won every single tribal immunity challenge, and then I went on to win more Individual immunity challenges than anyone else in the game. I tried to get to know everyone that I could, some with more success than others. I stayed as loyal as I could to those that I gave my word to. I think all in all, I believe myself to be a very well rounded player, who made big moves and played a major role in the season overall. I played the cards I was dealt, in the best way possible. That is why I’m asking for your vote, and for the vote of the other jurors.
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Post by Kimmi Kappenberg on Aug 21, 2008 19:32:42 GMT -4
Jeff's Quesiton
Hey, Jeff, thanks for the congrats, it's nice seeing you again!
It's always nice to see someone else's opinion about yourself! And about those fights that we had ... there was so much drama, and it was so fun! But, well, that was for other game, so let me get on your questions!
That's nice, Jeff. Well, I don't mind if you are a picky juror, but even If I did, you would still be. So, my mind doesn't really matter about this, right now.
Well, Debb won the most individual challenges in this game, than all of us! She won 3 individual challenges, and one of them was crucial for her, the final three challenge. Other thing is that Debb brought out a lot of benefit from her alliance with Jerri, to her other allies.. We could, and did, always mix the votes, in case the person who we wanted out had the idol. This may sound lame, but the last, but not least, is that she made Final 2. She got through everything this game faced us again. I don't know all of her moves, just simply beucase I am not her, but obviously all them were made the right time, on the right place, to get her to the Final 2.
Elisabeth ~ I would compare Elisabeth to Katie, from Palau. Elisabeth, like Katie, tried to look out for the best allies, she could get. She was looking for people, who would be up working with her, and would like her. When she felet she was playing quite under the radar, she decided to get things in her hands. Unlickly for her, that wasn't like by many people, and she got out.
Alicia ~ I would you, you remind me the most of Amber, from Australia. You were quite under the radar, but when you had, you tried to connect with stronger players, who possibly could help you get farther in the game. But, you were voted out, because one of your allies had immunity, and we didn't want't you & your ally to gain power in this game.
Mike ~ You remind me of Amanda, from Micronesia. Unlike Amanda, I think you weren't seeing that people would vote for you. But, like Amanda, you had the faith of one player in this game, in your hands. Amanda using her idol, and voting out Alexis, could be compared with you giving immunity to Jerri, and ultimately eliminating Jeff.
Jeff ~ I would say Alexis, from Micronesia. You always were looking to hook up, with people, who you thought could help you, so you could get farther. Like Alexis, you were voted out, because of an idol. You were a nice and fun player, like what Alexis was, and ironically you both ended 6th.
Jerri ~ The great underdog, the last remening of her tribe, and got a great ally, throught this game. I would compare you with Scout, from Vanuatu. You both were tied with strong players, and got a lot of benefit with that. You were seens as outnumbered (Weak, in Scout's case), but you managed to suprise people, and make it a lot farther, than they possibly thought.
Rodger ~ I would compare you to Paschal, from Marquessas. A geniuly nice person, who was loyal to his allies, but was voted out, beucase of an idol (Purple Rock, in Paschal's case).
Nick ~ When I think of you, you remind me of Terry, from Exile. You were loyal to your true alliances, you were awesome at challenges, and you came close to final 2, or maybe even a win.
For me, there are two moves, which are equall. If one of them wasn't made, I wouldn't be sitting here, next to Debb. The first one was joining the alliance of me, Rodger, Nick & Debb. If it wasn't for this, I may not even have made Final 4.
The other one was when I managed to make Rodger vote for Debb, and give me the idol. I was sure he would give it to Debb, because they were close (Which I know, thankfully to Nick) and I didn't want Debb to have so much power, in the end of the game. By telling Rodger that Debb voted for him at the F5 Tribal, and that she is going to do it again, I got Rodger's trust (I think). By voting with him for Debb was the moment when I was sure Rodger wouldn't give immunity to Debb. At least I hoped so, I did all I could do, to achieve that. It was risky I voted for Debb, because Nick & Debb could have been voting for me, but I made sure they were voting for Rodger.
Maybe because of one of my self-votes (The other one I had planned to do it), and not talking to as many people, as I could. These are the things I am sorry for.
Haha, maybe that you asked a question this time? Lol, just kidding! I like the fact that you never keep your thoughts about something for yourself. You are an open person, who tells what they want to say, even if it's mean, or rude, or nice. Secondly, I like the fact I could always talk with you, when I want. You are not that type of people, who are only answering, If you are questioning. People could talk with you about every kind of stuff, not only ORGs. Third, but not least importnat, is that you never gave up. Even, if something doesn't happen how you would like it to, you are trying to find an other way to change the things, and make them work for your best benefit!
Thanks, Jeff! There are always second chances, as this game says, so you may up end up sitting in our spot, in any of this series's future seasons! Thanks for your question! I answered your question completly honestly, and I wish you the best of luck!
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Post by Rodger Bingham on Aug 21, 2008 20:27:12 GMT -4
He offered me an alliance between me, him, Rodger and Alicia
wow i didnt know this... lolz... jeff never approached me
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Post by Rodger Bingham on Aug 21, 2008 20:34:03 GMT -4
Nick would be played by Brad Pitt, the devilishly handsome and sly chap who can play tough, and who is just a big teddy bear when you get to know him.
Kimmi would be played by Angelina Jolie because I think she has some black widow like qualities about her, and she can be very dangerous.
awww.... they make a great couple lolz...
BTW Debb you forgot me huhuhuhu.....
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Post by Rodger Bingham on Aug 21, 2008 20:36:02 GMT -4
ok on to my speech.... first of all congrats to you both.... i cant have played this game with the best people i've known... and to both of you no hard feelings for voting me out... i know we would turn our backs on each other in the end. unfortunately some earlier than others....
i actually have no questions for both of you... i will just see what you have to say by the other survivors then i will assess on that.... Good luck to both of you and see you all in season 3
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Post by Debb Eaton on Aug 21, 2008 20:37:21 GMT -4
Oh no! Haha. Sorry, Rodger. I'd say you'd be played by Will Smith because he's easy going, down to earth, talented, and a true class act, just like yourself.
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Post by Rodger Bingham on Aug 21, 2008 21:11:57 GMT -4
just an info kimmi... i was the one who asked you to vote with me.... and if i leave the idol will be yours... but yeah you told me about debb voting me... BUT if you didnt know i also asked Debb to not vote me but i guess she just wouldn't budge so you kinda got my trust but i also exhausted all my options
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Aug 21, 2008 21:19:27 GMT -4
Hey girls!!!! Congrats on making the final 2!
Kimmi, I didn't really get to speak with you at all though out the game. Going by your answers and your speech, I think you deserve to have made the final 2 though!
I don't have any questions for either of you, the other jurors are doing a great job of asking all the right questions, so I will be going by your answers. So good luck to both of you :-)
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